TRANSPORTATION POLICY BOARD

FOR THE

EL PASO URBAN TRANSPORTATION STUDY

 

MINUTES

May 7, 2004

 

1.         Call to Order.

 

Mayor Joe Wardy, Vice-Chairman, called the meeting to order a 9:07 a.m., at the El Paso MPO Office, 10767 Gateway Blvd. West, Suite 605, El Paso, Texas 79935.  Members in attendance were:

 

Members Present                                                                                    Members Absent

Patrick Abeln                            Director of Aviation                                   Dolores Briones                       County Judge

Patricia Adauto                         CAO, Building & Planning Services         Mayor Art Franco                    Town of Anthony

Chuck Berry                            District Engineer-TxDOT                         Cynthia Nava                          New Mexico Senator

Mayor Antonio Castro              Village of Vinton                                       Patrick Haggerty                      State Representative

Norma Chavez                        State Representative                                Terry Scott                               Mass Transit

Steven Cheatum                      Alderman-Town of Clint                           Eliot Shapleigh                         State Senator

Anthony Cobos                        El Paso Representative                           Arturo Terrazas                       Cmsr., Doña Ana County

John Cook                               El Paso Representative                           Daniel Power                           El Paso Representative

Alvin Dominguez                      District Engineer-NMDOT

Joe Pickett                                State Representative

I. Chente Quintanilla                 State Representative

Mayor Irma Sanchez               City of Socorro

Mayor Jesus Segura               Sunland Park, NM

Miguel Teran                           County Commissioner

Mayor Joe Wardy                    City of El Paso

Mayor Diane Whitty                 Town of Horizon City

 

Others                                                                                                      Others Continued

Judy Ramsey                          TxDOT-El Paso                                       Dolores Diaz                            Village of Vinton

Mark Longenbaugh                 TxDOT-El Paso                                       Yolanda Lucero                       Village of Vinton

Mary Telles-Goins                   TxDOT-El Paso                                       Shane Enghju                          Village of Vinton

Gerardo Leos                          TxDOT-El Paso                                       Camille Castillo                         Village of Vinton

Martin Holguin                         TxDOT-El Paso                                       Juvencia R. Ontiveros             Village of Vinton

Edgar Fino                              TxDOT-El Paso                                       Perch Valdez                           Village of Vinton

Marty Boyd                              TxDOT-El Paso                                       Jose Alarcon                            Village of Vinton

Lori Morel                                TxDOT-Austin                                         Charlie Hart                             Canutillo ISD

Michelle Conlin                        TxDOT-Austin                                         Alfredo Vasquez                      Canutillo ISD

Adrian Apodaca                       NMDOT                                                   Gonzalo M. Garcia                   Canutillo ISD

Juan Jaime                              County of El Paso                                    John Kessinger                        Canutillo ISD

Irving Johnson                         County of El Paso                                    Jose M. Villarreal                     Canutillo ISD

Javier Jaime                            County of El Paso                                    Sal Payan                                Cong. Reyes’ Office

Norma Palacios                       County of El Paso                                    Yolanda Black                          Rep. Pickett’s Office

Bob Czerniak                           NMSU                                                     Nina Serna                              Rep. Quintanilla’s Office

Bob Gray                                                                                                 UTEP                                      Lilia Ruiz  Rep. Chavez’ Office

Ralph Richards                        Jobe Concrete                                         Loretta Akers                           Sen. Shapleigh’s Office

Tracy Jones                            Gov’s. EDT Office                                    Gayle Kipp                               Circle N Stores

Esperanza Castillo                   City of Westway                                       Elve Dahler                             Circle N Stores

Jim Barker                               Westside Trucks                                       William Kipp                              Circle N Stores

Minerva Cheatum                    Town of Clint                                            Yinuo Du                                 EPISD

Joe Hernandez                        EPCAD                                                    Kent Summerford                     Savage Oil

Ralph Richards                        Jobe Concrete                                         Gwen Pulido                            GEPCC

Rafael Martinez                        Martinez Eng. Group                               Sally Baxter                             Doña Ana County

Daryl Cole                               Street Department                                    Robin Ransom                         City of El Paso

Jose Granillo                            El Paso Water Utilities                               Col. Larry Sansone                 Ft. Bliss

Laura Uribarri                          City of El Paso                                         Kevin Elkins                             City Attorney’s Office

Victor Aragones                       MPO Office                                               Eduardo Calvo                        MPO Office

Javier Avila                              MPO Office                                               Ricardo Dominguez                 MPO Office

Roy Gilyard                             MPO Office                                               Linda Gaucin                           MPO Office

 

At this time, Mayor Antonio Castro welcomed everyone to the Village of Vinton.

 

2.         Approval of Minutes for March 26, 2004.

 

Mr. Kevin Elkins, Assistant City Attorney, addressed the board and requested that the motion for approval include adding the following verbiage to Page 2, Item 3:  “Motion Carried”.

 

El Paso Representative John Cook made a motion to approve the Minutes of March 26, 2004 to include adding “Motion Carried” on Page 2, Item 3.  Mayor Irma Sanchez, City of Socorro, seconded the motion.  Motion carried.

 

3.         Status of Vinton Road Project.

 

Mayor Pro Tem Jose Alarcon, Village of Vinton, addressed the board and reported that currently the Vinton Road Project is listed as a Priority 2 project.  The TPB has allowed Vinton to spend funds to go into design and engineering.  Mr. Alarcon reported that Vinton is currently waiting for a status report from Austin regarding the Vinton Rd plans.  Mr. Alarcon stated that he is speaking today on behalf of all the residents of Vinton and to state that Vinton Road is their number one transportation priority.  Structural integrity of the Vinton roadway will be deteriorating at a much more accelerated pace now that the traffic including truck traffic has increased.  Heavy commercial traffic east and west of the I-10 interchange continues to increase because of the NAFTA Program.  Mr. Alarcon stated that Vinton needs the Board’s support in pushing this project for funding.  Mr. Alarcon stated that the Board and TxDOT have been very helpful in finding sources for creative funding.  Vinton solely relies on the sales tax and it is a challenge to seek other funding sources.  No action taken.

 

4.         Joint Presentation by the Canutillo Independent School District Board of Trustees and the El Paso Community College.

 

Mr. Charles Hart, Superintendent for the Canutillo Independent School District, addressed the board and reported that CISD is standing in the hub of all things future in El Paso County.  Mr. Hart stated that CISD is standing at the end of Transmountain Road, at the end of Artcraft Road and at the crux of the freeway.  Mr. Hart stated that everything that allows for the quality of life would probably start in this area.  Mr. Hart referred to a site map (attached as a permanent part of this record) of the soon-to-be finest educational complex in the county.  This site map was of the El Paso Community College and next to that site is the Canutillo High School, which is on the way out of the ground right now.  Mr. Hart stated that this complex is the best example of cooperation between institutions that he has ever seen.  Dr. Rhodes and his staff are cooperating with the CISD to get this complex complete.  Mr. Hart stated that they are all cooperating together with Facilities, Finances, and expertise, with area, to complete this for the El Paso area. 

 

Mr. Hart directed the board’s attention to the soon-to-be sports complex, which CISD welcomed the City to put in there.  This will make the complex not only an educational complex but an athletic complex as well.  Mr. Hart reported that the road that is being built jointly by El Paso Community College and CISD is the only egress for this site.  Mr. Hart stated that when they built this school, they had every confidence that Loop 375 would be complete.  Mr. Hart stated that CISD received word right after they started building that this may not happen.  Mr. Hart stated that at first CISD wrongly blamed TxDOT, only later to find out that that was not true.  Mr. Hart stated that TxDOT has the money to start construction.  The problem is that there are frontages and right-of-way that have not been purchased.  Mr. Hart stated that CISD understood that it was the City of El Paso’s obligation to purchase these right-of-ways.  Mr. Hart stated that many of these right-of-ways can be donated and it is not the problem that CISD thought it was at first.  Mr. Hart stated that if Loop 375 is completed, you will be giving the city complex, Canutillo High School, the Community College complex, another egress from the complex making the congestion much easier access and egress to that school and make things flow much smoother.  Mr. Hart stated that CISD is hoping that they can get some kind of cooperation or help in getting Loop 375 completed.

 

Dr. Rhodes addressed the board and stated that he concurs with Mr. Hart’s presentation.  Dr. Rhodes stated that this is the finest example of cooperation and collaboration between two entities to meet the educational needs of this community.  Dr. Rhodes stated that they have a joint planning team that takes a look at everything that is being done between the two campuses to ensure that they are maximizing the efficiency and effectiveness of the taxing dollars that go into both institutions.  Dr. Rhodes stated that currently there are approximately 3,000 students in the northwest campus.  Dr. Rhodes stated that EPCC is the fastest growing community college in the State of Texas today.  Dr. Rhodes stated that their projections say that within two years, there will be in excess of 4,000 students at this campus.  Therefore, the ability for ingress and egress off of that site between the two campuses will share the parking lot.  CISD has about 1600-1800 students who will also be coming into that same lot. 

 

Mr. Berry, TxDOT, stated that initially when this project was conceived, TxDOT opposed the location of the high school in this location until the ISD staff and their administration and the community college explained to us the cooperation that they was going to take part at this location.  Mr. Berry stated that that was a pretty tough issue to fight after TxDOT became aware.  TxDOT shared their concern about traffic and access especially with a lot of young students (maybe first time drivers) accessing the high school campus.  However, after it was described to TxDOT the amount of cooperation that has taken place this far, it was tough to not support.  Since then, TxDOT has been trying to do all they can to help get this done.

 

Rep. Pickett wanted a status (date/funding) from TxDOT on this project.  Mr. Mark Longenbaugh, TxDOT, stated that today, TxDOT is at 90% construction plans.  Mr. Longenbaugh stated that TxDOT has environmental clearance and the funds ($10.5 million).  Mr. Longenbaugh stated that to begin the actual construction depends on getting the right-of-way agreement with the City of El Paso.  Mr. Longenbaugh stated that the City of El Paso needs to secure funds for that acquisition (latest estimate is around $4.4 million).  Ms. Pat Adauto, Deputy CAO for the City of El Paso, stated that TxDOT provided this estimate last week.  Ms. Adauto stated that this estimate is currently being evaluated by the City’s Engineering Department.  Ms. Adauto stated that from the City’s perspective there is no signed agreement with TxDOT for the right-of-way acquisition.  Ms. Adauto stated that the City’s policy in the Capital Improvements Program is to not forward those agreements to City Council for action unless a funding source has been identified.  Ms. Adauto stated that there are several parcels that have been acquired already through planning, donations, with some acquired actually by TxDOT and the City.  Ms. Adauto stated that there are ten remaining parcels and the estimate for acquisition of those ten parcels as well as the utility relocation in those areas is $4.4 million.

 

Mr. Longenbaugh stated that if the $4.4 million were available today, construction for this project is programmed for 2010.  Mr. Longenbaugh stated that in 2010, the high school would have been in operation about 3-4 years.  Mr. Longenbaugh stated that construction could last about 12-18 months, once it begins in that area.  Mr. Longenbaugh stated that TxDOT does have opportunities to accelerate that into an earlier year once we have the right-of-way.  Mr. Longenbaugh stated that the right-of-way might take 2-2 ½ years to acquire.  Mr. Longenbaugh stated that TxDOT could reschedule some things if the priorities would change in that direction.  Hypothetically, Mr. Longenbaugh stated that if we started today, construction could probably begin as early as 2006 or 2007.  At this time, the City of El Paso is the agency being asked to come up with the $4.4 million needed for this project.  Mr. Berry, TxDOT, stated that the only funding category he could think of that could assist the City with this funding is the MPO’s Surface Transportation Program (STP).  Mr. Berry stated that this unique arrangement and is not by any means, the ordinary way that projects are developed.  However, back when this project was a priority for the community, it was proposed to TxDOT’s Transportation Commission as a condition for approving the funding for this project, the City of El Paso agreed to an extra codicil in the agreement that they would be responsible for 100% of the right-of-way.  Mr. Berry stated that usually, it would be a lesser amount but this was part of the enticement to get the project approved.

 

Mr. Gilyard, MPO Executive Director, stated that Category 7 is a funding source but there will have to be some reprioritization of projects by the City to move this forward.  The funding is already tapped out but projects can be moved.

 

Rep. Pickett stated that he felt it was important that we take a look at the projects that aren’t ready, even though we have a list of projects and the TIP, we do know that some of them are not ready.  Mr. Berry stated that there would still be a 20% cost participation requirement, ($800,000) so it is not a small amount for the City of El Paso.  Mr. Berry stated that in reprioritizing, we would have to push other projects out to move this project in.

 

At this time, Vice-Chair Wardy directed Mr. Gilyard to have the Project Selection Committee evaluate this project for Category 7.

 

Ms. Adauto stated that the MPO, TxDOT, and the City staff have already worked on setting up a meeting to come up with the options that are available.  Ms. Adauto stated that even if we used STP funding, it would require the 20% match from the City and based on the commitments that are already on the table and the available funding from old programs, the $800,000 commitment would have to come as part of the 2006 bond issue.  Ms. Adauto stated that would be the earliest for the City to provide unless we re-program monies on projects that are already on the table now.

 

Mayor Wardy thanked CISD for their presentation today and stated that the Transportation Policy Board is extremely committed to the needs of the region.  The region has a great challenge and a tremendous amount of need but this is a very worthwhile project and it is appropriate that the TPB is here today in the CISD setting.  Mayor Wardy stated that the TPB is looking forward to cooperating with CISD in moving these projects forward.  No action taken.

 

5.         Discussion and Action to Amend the 2004 Unified Planning Work Program.

 

Mr. Eduardo Calvo, MPO Office, addressed the board and reported that the MPO is requesting that the board amend the FY2004 Unified Planning Work Program (UPWP).  Mr. Calvo stated that the MPO needs to amend Task 4.0, by adding a new subtask, Subtask 4.5 Texas Metropolitan Mobility Plan; amending Subtask 4.4 Metropolitan Transportation Plan Consultant Support to incorporate a contract with UTEP to develop a new modeling technique called DynaSmart.  Mr. Calvo stated that the MPO is allocating additional funds to Task 4.0 to allow for the work under Subtask 4.5.  Mr. Calvo reported that the planning funds from the State of Texas are being transferred from Task 2.0 and 5.0 to Task 4.0 and adding an additional $75,000 to Task 4.0.  Mr. Calvo stated that with regards to the New Mexico funding, the MPO is adding $26,000 to allow for more work related to GIS.  Finally, Mr. Calvo reported that the MPO is also making an adjustment to Subtask 5.2 to reflect what the final cost of the contract is. 

 

A motion was made by State Representative Joe Pickett to approve amending the FY2004 Unified Planning Work Program to include the following:

 

·       Add Subtask 4.5 Texas Metropolitan Mobility Plan (TMMP);

·       Transfer funds currently programmed under Task 2.0 and 5.0 to Task 4.0; and

·       Program additional planning funds from New Mexico in the amount of $26,037 and Texas in the amount of $75,157.

 

District Engineer Chuck Berry, TxDOT-El Paso, seconded the motion.  Motion carried.

 

6.         Status Report on the April 22, 2004 Executive Committee Meeting:

 

a.       Presentation on New Tools in HB 3588 and Toll Feasibility in the El Paso Area;

b.      Frequently- Asked Questions about Texas RMA’s;

c.       Discussion and Action to Recommend to the Transportation Policy Board to Approve a Toll Road Policy for the TPB to include, but not limited to:

 

1.        What local governmental entity should house the RMA?

2.        What percentage of our local contribution will come from tolls in the 2030 Plan in order to optimize our ability to attract state and federal funding?

3.        What timeline do you recommend for formation of our RMA and implementation of our toll projects in order to maximize El Paso's opportunity to participate in revenues for key projects?

 

d.      Discussion and Action to Recommend to the Transportation Policy Board to Approve a funding source for the I-10/Loop 375 Project for the May 27, 2004 Presentation to the Texas Transportation Commission;

e.       Discussion and Action to Recommend to the Transportation Policy Board to Approve Amending the MPO Bylaws and Procedures, Under ARTICLE III.  Membership

 

Representative Joe Pickett addressed the board and reported that the Executive Committee (EC) held a meeting on April 22, 2004 and had two of the five Texas Transportation Commission members attend the EC.  Rep. Pickett reported one of the items discussed by the EC was HB 3588 that was passed in this last legislative session, which contains so many new tools for transportation.  Rep. Pickett reported that the Commissioners made a very good presentation and showed how toll roads could come in and expedite projects bring revenue in that could be used for other things.  However, due to the complexity of it and the way the item was originally dictated to the EC, was to come back to the full body with a recommendation of a policy.  Rep. Pickett reported that because it is such a hot topic, the Chairman of the EC had asked that TxDOT and the MPO meet to come up with more detailed information regarding the tools available so that the TPB can hopefully come up with a policy.  Rep. Pickett reported that it is not just tolls that have to do with the new tools available.  Rep. Pickett stated that he felt we need to look at this bill more closely with TxDOT.  Rep. Pickett reported that regional mobility authorities were mentioned in the new legislation.  An RMA is comparable to a mini-TxDOT.  Rep. Pickett stated that there was legislation allowed at the last session that an area, a county, counties, or in our case, the City of El Paso, to create an RMA.  Rep. Pickett reported that there would probably be changes next year to the tools that are currently offered.  Therefore, the EC is not bringing a policy recommendation forward today for the board to adopt.  For a complete copy of the audio on this discussion, contact the MPO Office.  After much discussion, the following motion was made:

 

A motion was made by State Representative Joe Pickett to recommend that the Chairman of the TPB create an AdHoc Committee and direct this committee to poll all TPB member entities regarding their individual position on toll roads to include identifying any projects their entity would consider tolling and identify projects they do not want tolled.  El Paso Representative John Cook seconded the motion.  Motion carried.

 

Rep. Pickett reported that under Item d, he had requested that the board consider using an alternate funding source for the I-10/Loop 375 project that will be presented to the TTC on May 27, 2004.  Rep. Pickett stated that he was suggesting using bond funding as an alternate funding source.  Since then, Rep. Pickett stated that TxDOT would have an item on the May 27 agenda addressing the bonding capability.  Therefore, no action is needed on this item.

 

Under Item e, Rep. Pickett reported that the EC had received requests from some of the elected officials on the TPB to clarify a position on the TPB.  Rep. Pickett reported that the EC is recommending clarifying the following on Page 3, Article III.  Member:

 

·       City of El Paso -            5 members, Mayor or Appointee, and No less than 3 elected officials;

·       Town of Anthony –1 member, Mayor or Appointee

·       City of Socorro – 1 member, Mayor or Appointee

·       County of El Paso – 2 members, County Judge or Appointee and Appointee

·       Town of Horizon City – 1 member, Mayor or Appointee

·       Town of Sunland Park, NM – 1 member, Mayor or Appointee

·       Village of Vinton – 1 member, Mayor or Appointee

 

Mayor Diane Whitty addressed the board and reported that she did not feel the TPB had the authority to mandate that will be appointed by each city government.  Rep. Pickett reported that the reason this issue was addressed is because there is a conflict in the MPO Bylaws with the members from the City of El Paso.  Rep. Pickett reported that these recommendations were originally from the governmental entities on the TPB and therefore, the TPB is really not dictating who should be appointed.  In the past, all the voting members of the TPB who are designating that elected officials are assigned to the TPB.  Rep. Pickett reported that the EC is not recommending changing this request, but merely adding that each entity has the option to designate an “appointee:” in their stead.  Rep. Pickett reported that the EC has had mayors and the County Judge ask if they can appoint someone to sit on the board for them, on behalf of the respective entity.

 

District Engineer Chuck Berry, TxDOT-El Paso, reported that TxDOT does not have the regulations in hand today to show the board the elected officials are to sit on the TPB, but he understands that each representation should be an elected official, with the exception of TxDOT, Director of Aviation, Director of Mass Transit.  Mayor Wardy directed the Assistant City Attorney to research this item and bring back a recommendation to the TPB at their next meeting.

 

A motion was made by Mayor Jesus Segura, City of Sunland Park, NM, to postpone taking any action on this item until June 25, 2004 meeting.  Mayor Diane Whitty, Town of Horizon City, seconded the motion.  Motion carried.

 

7.         Presentation on the Status to Establish a Toll Road Policy for the El Paso MPO Study Area.

 

a.       El Paso MPO Office Efforts

b.      Texas Department of Transportation-El Paso District

 

An audio record of this agenda item is on file at the MPO Offices.

 

8.         Presentation on the PDNMaPa Regional GIS Initiative.

 

Due to time constraints, this item was postponed until the June 25, 2004

 

9.         Adjournment.

 

Mayor Jesus Segura, City of Sunland Park, NM. seconded by District Engineer Chuck Berry, TxDOT, made a motion to adjourn the meeting of March 26, 2004.  Motion carried.  The meeting adjourned at 9:55 a.m.

 

 

 

                                                           

Linda Gaucin, Recording Secretary

Transportation Policy Board for the

El Paso Urban Transportation Study Area