TRANSPORTATION POLICY BOARD
D R A F T
Minutes
October
27, 2006
1. Call to Order and Pledge of Allegiance.
Chairman John Cook called
the Transportation Policy Board meeting to order at 9:08 a.m. at the El Paso
MPO Offices, 10767Gateway Boulevard West, Suite 605, El Paso, Texas. Members in attendance were:
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Members Present |
Titles |
Members
Present
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Titles
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Patrick Abeln |
Director of Aviation |
Eliot Shapleigh |
Texas State Senator |
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Charles H. Berry, Jr. |
District Engineer TXDOT-El Paso |
Miguel Teran |
County Commissioner, El Paso |
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Kevin Bunce |
Interim Director, Mass Transit |
Members
Absent
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Titles
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Norma Chavez |
Texas State Representative |
Patricia Adauto |
Deputy City Manager |
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John Cook |
Mayor, City of El Paso |
Alvin Dominguez |
District Engineer-NMDOT |
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Eddie Holguin |
City Representative, District #6 |
Art Franco |
Mayor, Town of Anthony |
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Larry Medina |
County Commissioner, El Paso |
Patrick Haggerty |
Texas State Representative |
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Walter L. Miller |
Alderman, Town of Horizon |
Trini Lopez |
Mayor, City of Socorro |
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Presi Ortega, Jr. |
City Representative, District #5 |
Cynthia Nava |
State Senator, New Mexico |
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Joe C. Pickett |
Texas State Representative |
Beto O’Rourke |
City Representative, District #8 |
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Chente Quintanilla |
Texas State Representative |
Madeleine Praino |
Mayor, Village of Vinton |
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Robert Rivera |
County Engineer, El Paso |
Dale Reinhardt |
Mayor, Town of Clint |
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Jesus Segura |
Mayor, City of Sunland Park |
Dolores Saldaña-Caviness |
Co. Commissioner, Doña Ana |
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Others
Present |
Others Present |
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Mike Rooney |
Citizen |
Nick Costanzo |
EPWU |
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Terry Craig |
EPISO |
Tim White |
Ft. Bliss |
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Yolanda Martinez |
EPISO |
Clark McChesney |
Ft. Bliss |
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Marcela Gerardo |
EPISO |
Mark Crews |
TXDOT |
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Kevin Courtney |
EPISO |
Joseph De La Rosa |
NMDOT |
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Troy Hicks |
BQC |
Jill Breitinger |
Rep. Pickett’s Office |
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Sister Julie Cutter |
EPISO |
Robert Grijalva |
Rep. Quintanilla’s Office |
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Emily Kreisa |
PB |
Charlie Ward |
Sierra Machinery |
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Blanca Del Valle |
TXDOT |
Nina Serna |
Rep. Quintanilla’s Office |
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Jesse Acosta |
County of El Paso |
Rajat Rajbhandavi |
TTI |
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Mark Longenbaugh |
TXDOT |
Rafael Aldrete |
TTI |
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Charlie Dodge |
HNTB |
Raymond Telles |
City Attorney |
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Darrin Willer |
HNTB |
Lupe Cuellar |
City Attorney |
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Michael Vonasek |
Corps of Engineers |
Roy Gilyard |
MPO |
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David Shafii |
Ft. Bliss |
Ricardo Dominguez |
MPO |
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Mike Bormann |
Corps of Engineers |
Efren Meza |
MPO |
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Troy Collins |
Corps of Engineers |
Sonia Perez |
MPO |
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Rivel Morales |
EPISO |
Carlos Najera |
MPO |
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Miriam Almaraz |
EPISO |
Gloria Deese |
MPO |
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Maria Valdez |
EPISO |
Isela Perez |
MPO |
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Manal Shehabi |
GEPCC |
Adolfo Coronado |
MPO |
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Richard Dayoub |
GEPCC |
Christina Stokes |
MPO |
2.
Approval of Minutes for September 22, 2006.
A motion was made by
Charles Berry to approve of the Minutes for September 22, 2006. Commissioner
Teran seconded the motion. The motion carried.
Chair Cook acknowledged a request from EPISO to speak regarding agenda
Item 8.
Ms. Terry Craig of EPISO (El Paso Interreligious Sponsoring Organization)
approached the Board and introduced herself.
Ms. Craig advised that EPISO is an organization made up of institutions,
schools and colonias that work to include all voices for the improvement of our
community. Ms. Craig further advised
that EPISO does not yet have a position on toll roads, the RMA (Regional
Mobility Authority), or any particular plan.
Through a series of house meetings in different parts of the community,
families have expressed that the issue of toll roads is a very complicated one
and they feel that they have not been given enough information on the
subject. They are concerned that those
people who live in the far east must travel across town for low wage jobs and they
may not be able to afford to pay for toll roads. They are concerned that people with money have input and those
without do not. They are concerned that
people in Austin and elsewhere are telling us what we must or must not do. Ms. Craig asked that any decisions regarding
toll roads be postponed at this time until the families in the communities are
better educated or given more information on the subject. Ms. Craig again advised that EPISO has not
yet taken a position on toll roads but will be willing to hold any forums and
invite anyone who would be interested in providing additional information to
the families.
3.
Discussion and
Action to Approve Executive Committee Recommendations:
a.
Establishing a Policy for the Allocation of
Coordinated Border Infrastructure Program (CBIP) Funds.
Commissioner
Teran explained that the conclusion reached by the Executive Committee was to
set aside 85% of the fund for significant transportation projects and 15%
allocated to smaller projects in rural communities of the remaining balance of
the CBIP fund amount, which is $46 million.
Commissioner Teran advised the funding amount for any project not
completed or found ineligible after TPB approval would also be applied to the
funding set aside for the rural community projects.
Chair
Cook commented that a problem could be presented when some of the smaller
communities could not provide the matching funds for projects and asked if
there was a provision to return those funding amounts to the 85% portion of the
CBIP fund. Commissioner Teran advised
that was not discussed and explained that the EC focused on allocating an
amount of CBIP funding to smaller communities.
Commissioner Teran commented that in the case that funding from larger
projects is available and is not applied then the issue would be addressed and
voted upon at that time.
Senator
Eliot Shapleigh asked Mr. Roy Gilyard for an explanation of the use of the CBIP
funding. Mr. Gilyard explained that the
Coordinated Border Infrastructure Program is a federal program that was created
under the new SAFETEA-LU (Safe, Accountable Flexible Efficient Transportation
Equity Act—A Legacy for Users) transportation bill and is the same funding used
to fund the Border Improvement Plan a year ago and a community must be a border
community in order to be eligible to use this fund. The definition of a border community is a community that is
located within 60 miles of the US/Mexico border. Mr. Gilyard advised that TXDOT (Texas Department of Transportation)
has been allocated $53.5 million of CBIP fund over a period of five years and
is used for the purpose of the program is to improve the efficient movement of
people and goods with emphasis through ports of entry but includes other
roadways that may provide transportation to ports of entry and improve the
movement of people and goods through these ports.
Representative
Joseph Pickett advised that the Executive Committee’s focus was a continuation
of the previous discussion of the TPB regarding this funding and once this
funding was dedicated to projects, it would not expire. Mr. Gilyard added that the money for this
program is still available after the end of the five-year Bill.
Chair
Cook wanted to clarify that if the 15% (set aside for smaller communities) is
not used, in the event the smaller communities could not match the fund, that
amount would be considered for other projects and brought back to the Board at
a later date. Representative Pickett
commented that the Project Selection Committee (PSC) is responsible for ensuring
that all agencies are able to provide the matching funds when the PSC
recommends projects for approval.
Commissioner Teran made a motion to adopt
the CBIP policy and was seconded by Mr. Robert Rivera. The motion carried.
b.
Regarding the Hiring of an Attorney to Represent the MPO
Chair
Cook commented that the issue of hiring an MPO attorney only arises when there
is a possible conflict but doesn’t feel that this is a wise financial decision.
Representative
Presi Ortega asked for the financial consequences. Mr. Roy Gilyard explained that the MPO currently pays the City of
El Paso a little over $17,000.00 a year for legal services; outside legal
counsel may cost between $200 to $250 per hour with an individual or firm.
Senator
Shapleigh commented that the conflict issue is important and added that the
lawyer for this Board must be responsible for the duties of this Board and not
on behalf of the City, County or anyone else.
Senator Shapleigh suggested the Board might consider making a motion, at
times of a perceived conflict, to assign an outside attorney for that one issue
to represent the MPO’s interest. He
suggested that the concept of an interim attorney might be acceptable.
Commissioner
Teran advised that this option was discussed by the EC and should be
considered. Representative Pickett commented
that previously, when this issue was brought up, a request for professional
proposals was made and this could be cost saving. Representative Pickett preferred not to have an as-needed
attorney for continuity and recommends a motion to direct the Executive
Director to advertise for professional proposal for the Board’s
consideration. He also suggested that
the Board look at three or four proposals and the legal firms make a
presentation to the Board.
A motion was made by Representative Joseph
Pickett to direct the Executive Director to present three professional contract
proposals to represent the Board for consideration at its next TPB meeting and
was seconded by Senator Eliot Shapleigh.
The motion carried.
Mr.
Gilyard asked if the proposal was to include performing all MPO legal work and
it was clarified by Representative Pickett that it should involve all MPO legal
work which included working with the City’s attorneys as well as other agencies
and the public.
Note: Mayor Jesus Segura arrived at 9:33 a.m. and Commissioner Larry Medina arrived at 9:39 a.m.
Chair Cook then moved forward to Item #10.
4. Discussion
and Action to Approve the Relocation of Project #P208B-15A (Widening of McCombs St
from 2- lanes to 4-lanes from the Patriot Freeway north of the Painted Dunes
Golf Course to the EP Natural Gas Line) from
the 2025 model network to the 2015 network in the next Metropolitan
Transportation Plan (MTP) and Transportation Improvement Plan (TIP).
Mr.
Nick Costanzo of the El Paso Water Utilities presented this item and requested
approval of the project. Mr. Costanzo
explained that the project involved widening McCombs to a 4-lane divided road.
He commented that this is a $1 billion dollar project in Northeast El Paso with
about 16,000 acres of land owned by the PSB (Public Service Board), through the
City of El Paso, that is ready for development. The PSB previously had a Northeast Master Plan for this area done
and now has a consultant working on the detailed phasing of this plan in the
northeast to meet the demands of the troops coming in to Ft. Bliss and related
industries.
Mr.
Costanzo referred to the 10-year Land Parcelization Plan map that contains
6,500 acres of land that will be the first phase of development, of which 3,300
acres will be developed and the rest would be open space. There will be hike and bike trails
throughout the 3,300 acres and connecting into the State park. Mr. Costanzo advised that work was done by
the school districts to identify the location of schools for this area. Mr. Costanzo identified various housing
market types that included senior housing, high end housing near the golf
course and standard housing amounting to about 10,000 houses to be developed
within the next 10 years. The widening
of McCombs road would be the first step in beginning the first phase of this
plan.
Representative
Pickett commented that on the map, Loop 375 extension was reflected and asked
if this is what was being referred to as McCombs. Mr. Costanzo responded it was not and then identified the correct
location using the map. Representative
Pickett commented that this then could be part of the Northeast Parkway
alignment, to which Mr. Costanzo responded no and then identified the Northeast
Parkway on the map. Representative
Pickett then asked to show where it would pick up with the existing Loop 375 to
which Mr. Berry advised that the location was outside the area of the map shown
on the current slide. The location was
then identified and Representative Pickett commented that this extension was
important to this development as well and for the widening of McCombs expansion
to work, the Loop 375 extension would be needed for traffic flow of this Master
Plan. Mr. Costanzo advised that Loop 375 was overlaid and incorporated into
this Master Plan. Representative
Pickett advised that the extension alignment was prior to the Master Plan
development and asked if the PSB would provide relief for the right-of-way
acquisition for the Loop 375 extension because this was tied in now. Mr. Costanzo advised that the PSB would work
with TXDOT regarding the rights-of-way for the Loop 375 extension. Representative Pickett commented that this
information related to other plans the Board was evaluating on today’s TPB
agenda and that this could be a way for part of the funding proposals if we
could get some of this right-of-way dedicated.
Representative Pickett advised that this was one reason more time was
needed to come to a consensus regarding the Southern Relief Route and the
Northeast bypass. It has become more
important to see if we can get right-of-way donated by the City and PSB; this
would help with the development costs.
Chair Cook asked for a legal opinion as to whether or not the City could
make a donation of land as he believed there was a prohibition on donating
City-owned land. City Attorney Raymond
Telles advised that there are certain prohibitions and there would have to be
some sort of public purpose. Chair Cook
commented that this issue would be considered public purpose. He further commented that this should be
considered with regard to the other agenda items.
In
closing, Mr. Costanzo advised that EPWU (El Paso Water Utilities) staff had met
with TXDOT staff and the MPO staff, a presentation was made to the Technical
Advisory Committee and the PSB was willing to pay for the construction of the
widening of McCombs Road.
Senator
Shapleigh asked about the green space indicated on the map in regards to
arroyos, to which Mr. Costanzo advised that the consultant worked with the City
staff and the open space community in identifying the natural flow paths of the
area. Senator Shapleigh asked if this
was the 100 year flood plain and if it was being incorporated as permanent
dedicated green space owned by the City of El Paso to which Mr. Costanzo
responded it was and then identified on the map the location of dedicated land
that would be part of the State park.
Senator Shapleigh asked if similar work is planned for the West side to
which Mr. Costanzo advised that it is also planned.
Senator
Shapleigh commented that this is a very important long-term solution to what we
experienced with the flood in that area and was interested in how the green
space planning was determined. Mr.
Costanzo advised that this was being worked on for about a year and prior to
the recent flooding, but basically the idea was to allow for hiking and biking
to the State park through this path, under McCombs Road, under Martin Luther
King Road, through Painted Dunes Golf Course, under the overpass and to the 55
acre regional park in this green belt area (referring to a connection to the
other side shown on the map).
Mr.
Berry then asked for clarification that in the future, the Loop 375 extension,
as referred to on the map, be referred to as the Proposed Northeast Parkway. Mr. Costanzo stated that the terminology
change would be made.
Mr.
Costanzo explained that currently there is work under way amending the
comprehensive plan through December. It
will be presented to the CPC (City Plan Commission)and City Council and that
the Land Study application had been submitted and comments were being taken
now, including today. There will be amendments to the plan with hopes to have
the plan approved by CPC in December.
The plan is to put this land out to bid in February with the bid awarded
in April or May.
A Motion to approve was made by
Representative Pickett and was seconded by Senator Shapleigh. The motion carried.
5. Discussion and Action To
Approve, FY 2008, of the 2006-2010 Amended TIP, to use Congestion Mitigation Air
Quality (CMAQ) funds, for the Installation of “New” Dynamic Message Signs, from
Mesa on IH-10 to Eastlake on IH-10, in the amount of $2,513,818.
Mark Crews of TXDOT presented this item and requested approval. He explained that this project was presented and approved previously by the Board but was later determined to be ineligible for the “upgrade” of the dynamic message signs and was advised it was required that they be “new” message signs to be eligible to meet the conformity and emissions analysis figures.
Representative Pickett asked Mr. Crews if this project involved replacing old signs or only adding new signs. Mr. Charles Berry of TXDOT advised that this project would be adding new signs.
Representative Pickett questioned the difference between new signs versus older signs and Mr. Berry was able to address this issue. Mr. Berry explained that some of the dynamic message signs that are currently in place are about 15 years old and the technology for these signs has greatly changed within that time and the new signs are more visible with higher light intensity than some of the older signs. The older signs couldn’t be replaced using CMAQ (Congestion Mitigation and Air Quality) funds but would have to be replaced in accordance with TXDOT’s Preservation Program.
Chair Cook wanted to clarify that this item that was approved by the Board previously consisted of the same detail and requested funding amount to which Mr. Crews stated the item was the same.
A Motion to approve was made by
Commissioner Teran and was seconded by Mr. Charles Berry. The motion carried.
6. Discussion
and Action On the Proposed FY 06-07 Unified Planning Work
Program (UPWP) Amendment to Program $54,403.00 of
Additional FY07 Section 5303 funds received from the Federal Transit
Administration.
Isela Perez, Accountant for
the MPO gave a brief presentation of this item and requested approval.
A Motion to approve was made
by Commissioner Teran and was seconded by Walter Miller. The motion carried.
7. Discussion
and Action Regarding the Inner Loop Project.
Charles
Berry, District Engineer of TXDOT for El Paso, made a presentation. Mr. Berry advised that the information
provided in the Board’s packets described the current status of the Inner Loop
Project. The Inner Loop was recently
designated as State Highway Spur 601 and is a proposed limited access highway
that will connect US Highway 54 with Loop 375, Purple Heart Highway. It improves access to Ft. Bliss and Biggs
Army Airfield as well as providing new access to the El Paso International
Airport’s new commercial and industrial developments and the huge development
that is going on at Ft. Bliss, now, otherwise known as East Biggs. The Inner Loop has been in the El Paso MPO’s
and TXDOT’s Long Range Plan for several years.
The construction costs for this project is about $176 million and
sufficient funds have not yet been identified.
TXDOT has recently received two solicited proposals as a result of one
unsolicited proposal that TXDOT received back in December of 2005. In April of this year, TXDOT received two
competing proposals for the development of that project through TXDOT’s
Pass-Through Toll Program. Through this
program, TXDOT reimburses a public or a private entity over a period of time
based on the actual traffic volumes that the highway experiences. TXDOT is in the process of reviewing the two
solicited proposals and because they are being proposed by a private entity, it
has made the review very complex. Both private entities have proposed that
interest costs be included in their repayment plan and typically this does not
occur. The typical process for a
Pass-Through Toll proposal is that a local government makes a proposal to TXDOT
for a financing plan and then the local government returns upon approval to proceed
with acquisition of a contractor and design firm to build the facility or
facilities. In El Paso, the
Pass-Through financing plan is an all-inclusive package that includes the
financing plan, the design firm and the contractors that would completely deliver
a turnkey type project. This has made
the process more complicated, however, it is believed that once it is
completed, we will be further along in the process than when a government
entity would make the proposal and it would have to go back and procure these
design and engineering and construction services.
Chair
Cook asked if TXDOT is in the process of trying to sort out the “apples” from
the “oranges,” to which Mr. Berry advised that TXDOT is committed to trying to
deliver this by the end of this calendar year with a decision on these
proposals. It is a tight schedule and
there are a lot of reviews, as the two proposals were very different from each
other.
Representative
Norma Chavez asked if the private entities could be identified and Mr. Berry
stated that since it was public information, he advised that one entity was
Abrams Construction, Incorporated (based out of Austin, Texas), and the other
was Zachary Construction (based out of San Antonio, Texas). Representative Chavez then asked what entity
submitted the unsolicited proposal to which Mr. Berry advised it was Abrams
Construction.
Representative
Chavez asked if an RFP (Request for Proposal) was done to which Mr. Berry
advised that one had been done which resulted in the solicited proposals. He further explained that the RFP was done
due to the first unsolicited proposal submitted by Abrams Construction, who
then submitted a second solicited proposal. The Texas Transportation Commission
reviewed that unsolicited proposal in December 2005 and followed with a Request
for Proposals in January or February of 2006; and responses were received in
April. Senator Shapleigh then asked if
this proposal review would be done by December 31 (2006). Mr. Berry commented that the District
(TXDOT) is supporting an Austin operation that is in review of this; the El
Paso District is not responsible directly for that review. The review of these proposals is being held
at the administration level and Mr. Amadeo Saenz, our Deputy Executive Director
for Engineering Operations is personally taking charge of that and there are
several division offices that are involved The El Paso District office is just
one of those offices giving input to that review and they plan on completing
the review by the end of the year.
Senator
Shapleigh then asked for the total cost of the project. Mr. Berry gave two amounts; one figure was
based on if we had the cash today, and if we were able to procure the
right-of-way and get the design firms together and build that from end to end,
from US 54 to Loop 375, it would be on the order of $250 million and that
included the City of El Paso and Ft. Bliss responding with donations of a
substantial amount of right-of-way, not counting the right-of-way already being
donated for this. Ft. Bliss had
informed TXDOT that they really can’t commit to that until there is an approved
environmental document but have been very helpful and anxious to get this
project underway.
Senator
Shapleigh then asked if one of the three proposals, the one unsolicited and two
solicited, gets this project, what is the projected termination date of this
contract—when will this project be completed.
Mr. Berry advised that two entities have submitted different schedules for
delivery of the project but the big benefit to this is that we would be able to
deliver the project with what is called “Design-Build.” The delivering contractor would be designing
the work as they were building it whereas TXDOT could not do this but,
instead, must design, bid and then build. The timelines are on the order of
delivering, from end to end, in three to four years, traffic driving on the
road. The thought has been that the
most important part that our region needs as a metropolitan area, in terms of
transportation, would be that of the eastern part; from the work that is
underway at the Biggs entrance, right now, all the way to Loop 375. This would go underway first to
construction, while they were doing the more complicated design and the more
complicated right-of-way acquisition along the western portion between the
Biggs entrance and US 54.
Senator
Shapleigh then asked if, in the financing package, there was protection to this
community that none of this would become an active toll road. Mr. Berry advised that neither of the two
proposals had tolls as part of the delivery system; it is proposed as a
non-tolled facility at this time. Once it is under way as a non-tolled highway,
in order to convert it, we would have to go to the County Commissioners Court,
and it would be called a “Conversion.”
In order to do this, the state law provides for a conversion to require
a County Commissioners Court approval and referendum in support of a
conversion. Senator Shapleigh then
asked regarding the financing package, as the law is understood, is there the
ability, after “the ink is dry” and the project is let, to come back and ask
for modifications on different aspects of their contract because they are
ending up having to eat some of the cost of this that they didn’t anticipate. Mr. Berry answered no, not with any
unforeseen or unaddressed issues in the contract.
Senator
Shapleigh then asked for clarification on the repayment of debt whether it was
thirty years or fifty years. Mr. Berry
didn’t know exactly but would estimate thirty years. Senator Shapleigh then commented that when this package is
financed, part of it is going to be at the present value of $250 million, and
when it is put into concrete (approved and construction commenced) and built
within three to four years, then it is repaid with some funding stream and the
money would have to be borrowed up front.; so the cost of money is going to be
one of the line items in this project.
Mr. Berry advised that this was correct. Senator Shapleigh continued by asking if, under existing law,
they have the ability to charge the cost of money into the costs of the
project, to which Mr. Berry responded yes and that it was included in both of
the proposals TXDOT received. Mr. Berry
advised that this is a $250 million project that, likely, over time, is going
to cost on the order of $300 million and that this is a huge proposal for this
region to consider.
Senator
Shapleigh then asked who at TXDOT is monitoring this and pushing this forward
as an important project for Ft. Bliss to which Mr. Berry advised that it had
the highest attention of the Commission (Texas Transportation Commission) and
that the administration of TXDOT has been monitoring the progress and are aware
that this project supports and complements possibly the largest economic
opportunity in the state of Texas. Mr.
Berry advised that he mentioned to them that this could potentially be an even
bigger project than others in the state, including Toyota manufacturing going
to San Antonio.
On
behalf of the Board, Senator Shapleigh stated that the Board would like to see
this project funded and on board before the end of the year because there are
decisions that the Pentagon that are still pending based on whether or not this
gets done. He further asked that this
be conveyed in the strongest possible terms that it would be even better to
make this a Thanksgiving gift and not a Christmas present. Chair John Cook asked that it (decision) be
given to the Board by December 1, 2006.
Mr. Berry stated that he would convey the message personally and advised
that he knows that TXDOT administration is aware and that a receipt of response
from requests for information is expected in Austin, today. So it is ongoing
and has a very high priority for completion with TXDOT.
Representative
Pickett mentioned that as a former Chairman of the TPB, he received a letter
from the Executive Director of TXDOT, Mr. Mike Behrens (Mr. Ricardo Dominguez
was asked to look for this letter to present to the Board) in which Mr. Behrens
would not help El Paso. Representative
Pickett commented that the report on the Inner Loop given by Mr. Berry for the
last year has been that everything is fine and the unsolicited proposal was
received by TXDOT in a 45-day period and then asked Mr. Berry if the second
proposal was also received within the 45 days.
Mr. Berry advised that two proposals came in on the 45th day
or possibly the 44th day.
Representative Pickett then asked if one of them is being reviewed now,
to which Mr. Berry responded that both of them were being evaluated. There was a question as to which proposals
were currently being reviewed. Mr.
Berry clarified TXDOT received an unsolicited proposal from Abrams Construction,
Incorporated and as a result of that, TXDOT went out for an RFP and through that
RFP, TXDOT received two responses, one again from Abrams, Inc. and a second
response.
Representative
Pickett commented that Mr. Berry earlier stated that this was above the
District level and that the administration was holding it and also commented that
this was a difficult situation because TXDOT would like to see the same design
and development and construction all done at once; that is exactly what TXDOT
wants. He further added that if for no
other project in the state of Texas, this is the project that the Commission
should be behind 100%. Representative Pickett again referred to the letter he
received that did not indicate support from TXDOT for this project. Mr. Berry
recalled that the contents of that letter advised that it was more on the order
of TXDOT reviewing it as necessary to
move on it more quickly.
Representative
Pickett commented that today’s presentation was very different than the
presentation in July when Mr. Berry stated that everything with this project
was fine. Representative Pickett then
began reading a letter from Mr. Behrens given to him by Mr. Dominguez, but
realized this was not the letter which he was referring. Representative Pickett stressed the
importance of the Board knowing the status of this project and the necessity to
find funding to move this project forward. There was some discussion as to how
long ago the proposal had been received and how long the Board has waited on a
decision from TXDOT to begin moving this project forward. Mr. Berry explained that because the first
proposal was submitted as unsolicited, it was resubmitted later as a solicited
proposal with some differences than what was included the first time. It is not
being considered with the two proposals being reviewed now. Representative
Pickett asked why the Board was not notified that the first unsolicited bid was
not being considered nor was told that an RFP went out. He further commented that it appeared that
three proposals were being considered to which Mr. Berry apologized for the
confusion but there were initially three but because one was resubmitted, there
were only two being reviewed.
Representative
Pickett felt that due to the postponement of RMA (Regional Mobility Authority)
and toll road discussions that this project was placed on the
“back-burner.” Mr. Berry advised that
this proposal from the private sector was the first received and we now have
another one out there. He further
advised that TXDOT is “blazing new ground,” and have not done this before with
any other entity and in addition to that, it is the largest that TXDOT has
received to date. It is the largest in
excess of a quarter of a billion dollars with lots of pieces and parts such as
the financing plan—how that is going to be designed and how those costs would
be incorporated into the proposal; how it would be constructed; and potentially
how it would be operated or maintained in the future.
Chair
Cook commented that what Representative Pickett, Senator Shapleigh and the
Chair are trying to present is that there is a level of frustration with the
response the Board is receiving from TXDOT-Austin and that the Board would like
TXDOT-Austin to know that the Board is getting impatient. Mr. Berry advised that he would share this
concern and commented that the MPO has been able to provide videotaping of the
meetings that Mr. Berry has used to convey the Board’s concerns to the office
in Austin in addition to the Board’s direct communication with them.
Chair
Cook then asked for public comment.
Mr.
Richard Dayoub, President of the Greater El Paso Chamber of Commerce, then
approached the Board. He commented on
the Chair’s earlier comparison of this project to the San Antonio project in
the importance and magnitude of the expansion of Ft. Bliss and believed it was
a fair statement. He explained that the
impact on the economy of this community and region could be approximately $4
billion per year. He advised that Ft.
Bliss has already made an investment to this project with construction already
started on the Far East Biggs Field section at an estimated construction-only
cost of $2.6 billion. Mr. Dayoub
stressed the importance of needed infrastructure in the Ft. Bliss area and
advised that the Transportation Committee and the Greater El Paso Chamber of
Commerce Board (GEPCC) of Directors has designated the Inner Loop project as
its number one project. Mr. Dayoub also
asked that Mr. Berry convey a message from the GEPCC that it is clear of the
importance of this project and that it is clear that the cost of this project
is huge and that the longer it takes to make this decision, the more expensive
this project becomes and that it is imperative to make this announcement very
soon. Mr. Dayoub asked the Board to
consider other funding alternatives to complete this project if TXDOT fails to
expedite their action. Mr. Dayoub’s
final comment was to advise the Board those other communities in Texas and
across the country that have military installations, including Ft. Hood, are
waiting for action from El Paso and if there is none, will take advantage of
this opportunity.
Representative
Chavez commented that she was also aware of other communities waiting for the
opportunity to act if El Paso is not successful in its construction of the
Inner Loop and that El Paso should not take it for granted that these troops
are coming into El Paso. The Pentagon
needs to know that the infrastructure is place in order to support this influx
of troops.
Mr.
Dayoub added that information he received from the civilian agent with the
Secretary of the Army, Tom Thomas, confirmed that representatives of Ft. Hood
were meeting with Pentagon officials to advise that they were ready and to
deliver to the Pentagon misinformation regarding the conditions in El Paso
relative to our preparedness for this influx.
Representative
Chavez asked if the main concern with this project is that if it should be
non-tolled, to which Mr. Dayoub advised that that was a big issue, but that the
biggest issue is the timeliness of this project. It needs to be started and we
are already falling behind.
Representative Chavez then asked Mr. Berry if the Commission (Texas
Transportation Commission) is the determinant to which Mr. Berry responded that
it was the Commission’s decision on accepting or not accepting either of the
two proposals that we have.
Chair
Cook then asked for a legal opinion regarding eliminating TXDOT and doing this
as an RMA project; i.e., does an RMA have the authority to do a pass-through
toll project to which City Attorney Raymond Telles responded yes.
Representative
Pickett then advised that the project can be expedited even quicker today if
the Board can reallocate funding and make this project a priority but Chair
Cook.
Representative
Pickett asked if Mr. Dayoub was familiar with the letter that was mentioned
earlier regarding the Inner Loop. Mr. Dayoub advised that he did recall the
letter and that in summary of the letter, the closing paragraph mentions that
if the process TXDOT was going through wasn’t satisfactory to our community
that they would then challenge us (El Paso) to do it ourselves or find some
other alternate financing capacity; the inference was that they (TXDOT) were
doing the best they could and if we were not satisfied with their timing and
scheduling that we should consider other alternatives. Representative Pickett agreed with Mr.
Dayoub’s recollection of the letter.
There were some comments by Representative Pickett regarding expediting
projects without using an RMA.
Representative Chavez commented all tools available should be looked at
in order to expedite this project; there was some brief discussion regarding
the use or non-use of an RMA.
Mr.
Berry then asked to speak to reassure the Board and the public that the Inner
Loop project and the discussion regarding an RMA are two independent issues. The Inner Loop project is being considered
for pass-through toll financing as a BRAC (Base Realignment and Closure)
project that is of great importance to the state of Texas and an economic
opportunity development for the state of Texas and for El Paso. The RMA issues, the tolling issues, are
separate issues and that is how TXDOT is considering them. The Inner Loop proposals are being reviewed
and added that if BRAC (realignment) was not happening, we (TXDOT) would not be
considering the Inner Loop, especially with the size of this project. This is a
BRAC project. Chair Cook clarified that
what Representative Pickett was suggesting is that we (the Board) take all the
other projects such as the Southern Relief Route, for example, and fund the
Inner Loop with that to which Mr. Berry responded it was possible. Chair Cook also suggested that it could be
considered for an RMA project to which Mr. Berry responded that that was
possible as well.
Senator
Shapleigh then asked for a legal opinion, with respect to this project and
referring to agenda item #7, the Board has the ability to discuss and take
action on this as presented. Chair Cook
agreed that according to Texas Open Meetings law, you have to have an item substantially
posted to let the public know what you are going to do and doesn’t believe the
public had any idea that the Board would be considering looking at shifting
monies today but there would be nothing wrong with the Board, based on this
discussion, posting for that type of action for the December 1st
meeting. This would basically let TXDOT
know that the Board is prepared to take some type of action by December 1st,
even if it means we are going to take other projects, which TXDOT has been
supporting for some period of time, and move them back and move this project up
because I believe this Board thinks that this is an important enough action to
take.
Mr.
Berry commented that a decision on December 1st on whether to
totally go in a different direction gives him grave concerns that it may take
even longer to accomplish. We have the
potential for accomplishing our mobility program as we have the abilities to
deliver it in our funding capabilities here in El Paso and the Inner Loop. A
premature decision, to go off and “we’ll build the Inner Loop,” could result
just getting one of those (projects) and for the expense of just days or
weeks. Chair Cook advised that it was
understood and believed this would send a strong message to TXDOT.
Chair
Cook then acknowledged Colonel Tim White, Deputy Garrison Commander for
Transformation of Ft. Bliss. Col. White first wanted to offer his thanks to
Mayor Cook and the State for what is being done to help Ft. Bliss and the
soldiers of Ft. Bliss. Col. White
expressed his concern regarding the importance of the completion of the Inner
Loop that contributes to the synchronization and integration of everything
within the expansion area, the $2.6 million of construction at East Biggs. Col. White described what is involved with
preparing for the significant increase of soldiers and their families to Ft.
Bliss. He advised that there would be
an increase of approximately 12,000 to 13,000 soldiers and families living off
of Ft. Bliss with an additional 5,000 single non-commissioned officers also
living off Ft. Bliss which would be a total of about 17,000 to 18,000 soldiers
that the economy would have to absorb
and these soldiers would have to commute into Ft. Bliss and Biggs. Currently about 20,000 people work at Biggs
and 7,000 live at Biggs with only one access control point (ACP), or gate, at
Fred Wilson and Airport right now. He described a soldier’s normal day at work
and explained the difficulty in reporting to work as scheduled due to only one
open gate, which will create a tremendous traffic problem. He stressed that the Inner Loop is
absolutely significant to getting soldiers and government workers on to East
Biggs and the importance of completing the Inner Loop project to alleviate this
problem.
In
viewing a map of the construction at East Biggs that Col. White identified as
Phase I, Senator Shapleigh asked when the Inner Loop needed to be completed for
the influx of population due to BRAC; was it FY 2009 or 2010. Mr. Berry advised that it was FY2009 with
the completion of seven miles, and about 2 miles of road, of Inner Loop (East
side from Biggs to Loop 375) being the most critical. Mr. Berry advised that the plan complements what Ft. Bliss needs
in this area and is the easier part to deliver.
Senator
Shapleigh asked Mr. Berry if Mr. Amadeo Saenz was aware of this Ft. Bliss
construction and that this was being delay, to which Mr. Berry responded yes
and that the construction was underway, however, it was the access that was
being delayed. Senator Shapleigh asked
if it would be beneficial to invite Mr. Saenz to the December TPB meeting to
which Mr. Berry stated he could if that was preferred by the Board and added
that the administration is aware.
Col.
White added that this project would impact the quality of life for the soldiers
and their families in this area.
Mayor
Segura commented that it appeared that all Board members agree that there is
major significance for this regional project timeline for the best
options. He advised that the TPB needed
to apply pressure on TXDOT in determining project priority.
Representative
Pickett made a motion that if the Board does not hear from TXDOT by December
31, 2006 with an affirmative acceptance of this project, then at the January
TPB meeting the Board will reprioritize to make this the number one
transportation project in El Paso and find a way to fund it. Representative Chente Quintanilla seconded
the motion. Senator Shapleigh then
asked that Representative Pickett amend his motion to ask that Chair Cook send
a tape of this meeting and a letter to the Commission (Texas Transportation
Commission) with copies to all the key staff of the TTC about the timing aspect
of this and lay out the Ft. Bliss timeline. He added that second, we invite to the December meeting
both Ric Williamson of the TTC (Texas Transportation Commission) and Amadeos
Saenz of TXDOT to come here and hear this presentation and explain to the Board
where the decision making process is.
The third, is to place on the December agenda the discussion and action
that Joe is talking about so that the vote in front of them lays out exactly
what we are going to do and added that this should give them (TXDOT) plenty of
time to respond to your letter and come back and say it is either funded or
here are the reasons why not.
Senator
Shapleigh then commented that in December, there may be a posting issue with
the way it is now, then it will give us a chance to make that choice to
aggregate the money and make this the number one project in the region if TXDOT
is not going to respond; so the motion as it is amended would be those three
items. Representative Pickett did not
see a problem with the amendment with the exception of the date as earlier the
Chair decided that were going to combine the November and December meetings and
we are actually going to meet one more time on December 1, 2006 and that it was
probably too early to give them the ultimatum.
As far as the date, Representative Pickett advised that if we haven’t
heard affirmatively by December 31st, that we take action to find a
way to fund it in January because of the holidays coming up and the Board is
not meeting but one more time. Senator
Shapleigh commented that he felt it should still be posted as an agenda item so
that there are no open meeting issues imbedded in our discussion for December
with respect to prioritizing and constructing of the Inner Loop. Representative Pickett then agreed and added
that we could repost for the January meeting if we don’t hear by then.
Mr.
Berry then commented that it is only prudent for the District to have a “Plan
B” in the event if this one falls through and the District does have a Plan B
for this. He has asked at the highest
levels of TXDOT if TXDOT needed to pursue Plan B and was reassured that it
would not be necessary. Mr. Berry
advised that Plan B involved the reallocation of one project together with the
funding already identified in order to deliver the most critical portion of the
Inner Loop, which is the eastern portion, which was our initial plan before
these things came out. Chair Cook asked
what funding would be moved, to which Mr. Berry advised that it would be a
project to expand the interchange of Montana Avenue and Loop 375, the
underpass, as it was not determined yet to be an effective project as traffic
would be directed to the Lee Boulevard traffic signal. Chair Cook asked for the amount of funding
and Mr. Berry advised that it would be about $35 million. Chair Cook mentioned the Artcraft Extension
project in the amount of $11 million and Mr. Berry advised it was a project
that could be considered because there is Category 2 money assigned so between
those two and the funding we have available already, we could deliver the most
critical portion of need.
Representative
Pickett then amended his motion as stated by Senator Shapleigh to include
placing this item on the agenda for both December 1st and the
January meeting if necessary for discussion and action.
Mayor
Jesus Segura would also like to see from TXDOT the alternative plans or Plan B
and the timelines for these alternatives.
Mr. Berry advised that they would be made available to the Board. He advised that TXDOT is reviewing the list
of its mobility projects and assessing which are the most effective that need
to be delivered. For example, he would
not recommend that the Board consider the deletion of the Horizon Interchange
Expansion because it is such a huge need, however, regarding the traffic
problems with the project on Montana, it would rush everyone to the Lee
Boulevard traffic signal. He further
commented that if the Board was willing, it could consider re-prioritizing some
of the lower priorities to add to what the region is contributing.
Chair
Cook requested that the motion be read back to the Board and it was stated that
an item for discussion and action regarding the Inner Loop project would be
placed on the December and January Board meeting agendas and that
copies of this TPB meeting and a letter from the Chairman would be sent to all
key staff of the TTC as well as to Ric Williamson of the TTC and Amadeo Saenz
of TXDOT with an invitation to attend the December meeting.
Representative
Pickett clarified the motion for Discussion and Action in December
and/or January to reprioritize, if necessary, the construction for the Inner
Loop. We need to make sure that the Board knows and the public is aware
that we may be taking action on moving money from lower priority project to
higher priority projects, so it needs to be discussion and action on possibly
reprioritizing funding.
Mr.
Berry asked if the motion would mean that the discussion and action could
consider adding to the funding what is available locally to encourage other
funding from the Commission to fund this Inner Loop project, which is a
possibility as he understood it.
Representative Pickett advised that it would and would allow us to
consider using CBIP (Coordinated Border Infrastructure Program) funds as well.
A
Motion was made by Representative
Pickett to
place an item on the agenda for the December 1, 2006 and/or January 26, 2007
TPB Meetings for Discussion and Action regarding the Inner Loop project to Prioritize
the construction for the Inner Loop Project, as the single most important TPB
project, if necessary and to possibly re-prioritize funding from other MPO
funded projects, to apply to the Inner
Loop; and that the Chairman of the TPB will send a video tape of this TPB
meeting and a letter
about the timing aspect of this project regarding the Ft. Bliss timeline
to all key staff of the TTC; and Ric Williamson of the TTC and Amadeo Saenz of
TXDOT will be invited to attend the December TPB meeting. Senator Shapleigh
seconded the motion. Mr. Charles Berry
abstained from the vote; the motion carried.
Note:
Mr. Patrick Abeln left at 10:47 a.m. and Senator Eliot Shapleigh left at 10:48
a.m.
8. Discussion
and Action Regarding the Recommendation of the Technical
Advisory Committee to the TPB on the Comparative Report on the Southern Relief
Route and Alternative Plans:
a. Report on the Technical Advisory Committee
(TAC) Recommendation
b.
MPO Staff Alternative Projects to the Southern Relief Route
Chair
Cook recommended that action on item be postponed to the December 1, 2006
meeting date but would like to see the presentation.
Mr.
Berry advised that he would make an executive summary presentation to the Board
that would consist of about ten slides and would reflect as a status report and
allow for questions. TXDOT would not
call for action on this item due to the Chairman’s direction.
Mr.
Berry explained that the Southern Relief Route (SRR) was presented and approved
by the TPB in May but was rescinded in July with the direction to evaluate an
alternative plan over the next 120 days which will expire approximately in
December. An update was presented to
the TPB in September and the Technical Advisory Committee (TAC), in October,
was presented with most of the same information included in today’s TPB packet
comparing the SRR and Alternate Plan A to see which project would provide the
most congestion relief to Interstate Highway 10 (I-10), the best by-pass to
I-10 and the Policy Board would decide the funding strategy, now at a later
date. Mr. Berry advised that the TAC
was presented with the similarities between these two plans as a lot of these
projects correspond between the MPO staff’s Alternate Plan A and the SRR of
Phase I. They are essentially the same
route and very similar to what they would provide but not exactly so. For example, Project 7, which is the work on
I-10, varies to some degree as the MPO plan provides for widening I-10 from
Mesa to Executive Center; the TXDOT plan provides for the expansion of the
Interstate so that it could interchange better with US Highway 85 but it does
include additional lanes also. The rest
of the plan is very similar.
Mr.
Berry advised that the Board was told last September that the Alternate Plan
costs as they were listed in the proposal were out of date, they were planning
level estimates that came from the Metropolitan Transportation Plan and we
updated those costs to the current estimated cost that we have today so that
the total would be approximately $440 million as compared to the $466 million
proposal on the SRR with essentially the same segments; they do not perform the
same functions but they are fairly similar.
The Northeast Parkway was included in the Alternate Plan A and the
Border Highway Extension East with subsequent connections back to Interstate 10
at Clint Road and other locations are also essentially the same; so these two
extensions could be proposed by either plan in the same fashion. Mr. Berry commented that although the
proposals come up with different cost estimates, we recommend focus on the
differences between Alternate Plan and the SRR proposal and our TAC recommended
the same. They are saying the bulk of
each proposal is in provision of a route along the southern line with Loop 375
and since both of them appear to provide similar benefits, the Policy Board
should decide between the two.
Mr.
Berry then reviewed the slide of proposed funding of the SRR and its various
phases of development. The Northeast
Parkway was part of this funding proposal, the cost estimate for a four-lane
divided highway is $226 million but only had $73 million of that amount in our
coffers and ready for use. That portion
was money being made available to us through the Texas Mobility Fund (TMF) and
we recommend in this evaluation that we combine these resources of funds into
our highest priority of work for this route so that we would have available
about $224 million. There is another
$12 million that is available in other funding categories and we reported to
you that there was about $170 million value associated with being able to toll
that route. The toll revenue bonding
value was previously estimated at about $190 million but because this has been
thoroughly evaluated by TXDOT staff along with MPO staff, it was determined
that the $180 million cost estimate included some portions of I-10 that were
not intended to be tolled, so it was adjusted to $170 million.
Chair
Cook then asked if the toll study was given to the MPO to which Mr. Berry
advised that it was being worked on and that information would be given to
Ricardo Dominguez of the MPO.
Representative
Pickett asked if that included the projected cars and amounts per automobile
and Mr. Berry said it did. Representative
Pickett then asked if it would include costs per hour per mile and Mr. Berry
responded it would at 14 cents per passenger vehicle per mile rate and added
that the report would be presented as a cost per mile per passenger vehicle. Chair Cook directed Ricardo Dominguez to
ensure that this information is provided as backup for the December 1st
TPB meeting.
In
reference to the 14 cents per mile per passenger vehicle, Mayor Segura asked if
this was for construction cost only or was it also considered for
administrative costs. Mr. Berry
responded yes, for the toll cost for the project and when we look at the
project we look at the project cost in terms of what it takes to design it, to
build it, and to maintain lanes and operate the toll system. In addition and because the proposal is a
toll, we estimate that the cost of maintaining that road, if it were just a
regular old highway, it would be about $89 million over the life cycle of the
project. Representative Pickett
mentioned new construction standards and also commented on previous discussion
regarding maintenance costs.
Mr.
Berry then reviewed the funding proposal and advised that the proposal was
refined and uses $73 million that were available from the Mobility Fund
although there is about $108 million that has been allocated for the region; it
is only being proposed to use $73 million of that against the SRR proposal.
Representative Pickett then questioned the amount of $108 million and asked if
it would increase since the Mobility Fund has an increased capacity of $5.3
billion and TXDOT has authority for $4 billion. Mr. Berry advised that previously he had expanded it before from
the initial amount of $81 million and was increased to the $108 million but
neither he nor the District had been advised to plan for more than $108
million.
Mr.
Berry continued with his report and advised that project that they are going to
take to contract next in February or March is for the I-10/Horizon Interchange
Expansion. Mr. Berry would like to
present this to the Board at a later date as this is an awesome proposal.
The
last project on the list, mentioned earlier, is the Artcraft Road Extension is
another project that would remain but could be reprioritized by the Board.
There
were some concerns with Alternate Plans A and C where the majority of the construction expansion was on the
ground in West El Paso along Paisano Drive that shows (referring to a photo)
the very limited right-of-way that is available between Rio Grande River and
the BNSF Railroad of about 150 feet that neither plan could allow for
expansion.
Chair
Cook asked if neither Plan A or C could allow for an expansion in this area,
how would the SRR allow for it. Mr.
Berry advised that as previously proposed, the SRR would “stack” the toll way proposal
part of the project on top of the four-lanes for west Paisano to continue to
remain as a non-tolled project. In
order to save costs, both A and C alternatives were conceiving that they could
fit everything on the ground; it fit in some locations along the ground but
there were some bottlenecks where we just don’t have enough land available for
a six-lane freeway and a couple of frontage roads on each side. Chair Cook asked if it would be possible to
move the rail to which Mr. Berry mentioned that at one point on the Westside
near UTEP (University of Texas at El Paso) between the mountain behind the Sun
Bowl and the International Boundary, TXDOT staff was asked to look at some
aerial photographs to estimate where the “pinch-point” is and there is about
900 feet of space that may sound like a lot but it is not and it is too
difficult to expand at that location.
Mr. Berry also advised that the location is also the BNSF Railroad’s
primary connection to Mexico; so it would involve relocating two Class-One
railroads in order to try and make that space available.
Mr.
Berry then advised that the SRR was found to be more financially feasible, it
provides the most capacity improvement, it has less right-of-way impact, less
right-of-way acquisition delays than the other proposals and it covers life
cycle costs for the project and it could potentially supplement other projects
in the future such as the Border Highway Extension East and the delivery could
be by the year 2012.
The
Alternate Plan A had a larger funding gap and the TXDOT and MPO staffs met
yesterday and TXDOT was presented with another option and will be the subject
of Plan D and more time is needed to evaluate.
Representative
Chente Quintanilla asked about the possibility of the Border Highway Extension
East being considered when the bonds were retired to which Mr. Berry it could
possibly be even sooner as this was just one of the ways that TXDOT could help
to deliver the Border Highway Extension East.
Commissioner
Teran asked if there was any way to at least get the alignment of the Border
Highway Extension East and Mr. Berry advised that is being worked on now and
gave a brief status.
Mayor
Segura asked about right-of-way issues and the 14 cents per vehicle mentioned
earlier and Mr. Berry explained that the estimated toll rate we were using to
value what the $170 million bond value would be is 14 cents per vehicle per
mile in toll. Mayor Segura commented
that if there are limitations in regards to road easement when you are talking
about expanding that component, within your figures how you figured alternative
component. Mr. Berry advised that slide
was intended to show you that Alternative Plan A has a wider footprint than
what is available and that the SRR can fit on that alignment.
b.
MPO Staff Alternative Projects to the Southern Relief Route
Mr.
Ricardo Dominguez of the MPO made this presentation. He explained that the MPO presented an alternative plan to the
SRR at the July TPB meeting and there have been some revisions since that time. Mr. Berry mentioned that the MPO and TXDOT
staffs met several times previously and as recently as yesterday to work on
improving the MPO’s plan and should have some answers ready by the next TPB
meeting on December 1st.
The
original purpose of the MPO’s plan was to fund more than one project. We are proposing to fund three regionally
significant projects. Alternative Plan
A will cost about $360 million and in comparison to the $466 million for the
SRR, there is $106 million remaining. What the MPO plan then proposes is that
we then use that money in combination with other funding sources. Mr. Dominguez advised that Mr. Berry
described Alternative Plan A sufficiently and commented that both the SRR and
the Alternative Plan A will help relieve traffic from Sunland Park. The MPO has met with Commissioner Teran
regarding the Border Highway East and also asked TXDOT staff if CBIP funds
could be used if the County purchases the right-of-way and have the County
build the roads at County standards as opposed to State or Federal standards
and the answer was yes. So the $36.9
million may be too high but Mr. Dominguez will be meeting with Mr. Rivera to
get a better estimate. It has been
agreed, through the analysis conducted by TXDOT, and we realize that Border area
and valley area need some help and the Border Extension East will do that. Not only is it going to relieve those
streets but will also improve Socorro Road so that the tourist and incoming
traffic would allow it to grow commercially.
Mr.
Dominguez advised that the numbers for the Northeast Parkway will need
improvement but the benefits of the MPO plan is to build both the Northeast
Parkway and the Border Highway West.
This gives us the ability to then go south if there are traffic problems
and then the ability to cross over if there are traffic problems in the
southern area (referring to a map on the slide). Mr. Alvin Dominguez, New Mexico District Engineer, at previous
meeting mentioned that he was advising the drivers in traffic on Interstate
Highway 10 to use O’Hare Road, Anthony Gap Road, so the proposal for the
Northeast Parkway is to take the interchange of Interstate Highway 10 just
north of Anthony and go along the mountain and through the northeast PSB land
and then up to Loop 375. The importance
of the Northeast Parkway, in relation to the Inner Loop, gives another
alternative for troops to travel to White Sands and McGregor Range. Representative Pickett then asked Mr.
Dominguez to identify on the map where the PSB plan to widen McCombs and where
McCombs would cross the Northeast Parkway.
This would benefit the residents in the area as well as Ft. Bliss. Mr. Dominguez then advised that there would
be a revised plan regarding the funding proposal presented at the next
meeting. Mr. Berry wanted to caution
everyone not to rely on the numbers presented at this time as it was
established that there were some overlap in the numbers.
Representative
Pickett asked the Chair to request from TXDOT an updated Mobility Fund amount
should we use tolls, pass-through financing or anything else so that we might
have better numbers on all plans since it is possible the amount may have
increased. Mr. Berry advised that a
formal request was not necessary and he would provide the information to the
Board through Mr. Roy Gilyard who can distribute the information to each
member.
This item was postponed to the December 1,
2006 meeting.
At
this time, Mayor Segura then expressed his appreciation to TXDOT, the City of
El Paso, NMDOT and the El Paso MPO for all their help with the Sunland Park
Extension project.
Mr.
Mike Rooney, citizen, asked to approach the Board. Mr. Rooney wanted to thank Representative Pickett for presenting
an alternative option for consideration and also thanked those that asked that
this alternative option be examined along with the initial proposal. Mr. Rooney made comments regarding Ft. Bliss
and project options and related cost impacts of each option. He also presented an article that was an
update to the Katrina rebuilding effort involving cost examination
process. Mr. Rooney supports the
completion of the Inner Loop.
Note:
Representative Eddie Holguin and Representative Presi Ortega left at 11:10
a.m., Commissioner Larry Medina left at 11:13 a.m. and Representative Chente
Quintanilla left at 11:24 a.m.
9. Status Report on the
Updates to the 2030 and the 2035 MTPs for Safe, Accountable Flexible, Efficient
Transportation Equity Act- A Legacy For Users (SAFETEA-LU) Compliance,
Mr.
Ricardo Dominguez of the MPO staff presented this item. Mr. Dominguez explained that the MPO
normally conducts and develops one long-range plan and advised the Board that
within the next 12 months the MPO staff will be coordinating three MTPs
(Metropolitan Transportation Plans) for different purposes. One plan will be for administrative purposes
only; the second plan is the normal coordination of adding and moving projects
along; and the third plan is an entirely new plan that involves using the new
tools that the MPO has been given.
There was no further
discussion.
No Action Required.
10. Next
Meeting: Chair Cook called for cancellation of the November 17, 2006 meeting
and the reschedule of the December 15, 2006 meeting to December 1, 2006.
All TPB members present agreed with the
change.
At this time, Chair Cook
asked for any additional public comment prior to adjournment. There was none.
11. Adjournment.
A motion to adjourn was
made by Representative Chavez and seconded by Walter Miller. The motion carried.
The meeting was
adjourned at 11:25 a.m.
Christina Stokes,
Recording Secretary
Transportation Policy
Board for the
El Paso Urban Transportation Study